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The Pilamaya Podcast
The Pilamaya Podcast is a monthly series from the Pilamaya Centre for Integration Psychotherapy in the UK, hosted by Shaura Hall and Pilamaya graduate Susan Clark. Each episode explores integration psychotherapy, consciousness, and personal transformation, weaving ancient wisdom together with contemporary therapeutic practice across themes of relational healing, emotional growth, and the deeper questions that shape our inner lives.
At its heart, this podcast reflects who we are as a community of learners, and why this work matters beyond the therapy room. At Pilamaya, we believe the therapeutic process is a vehicle for change in the world, and these conversations sit at that edge, where personal transformation meets collective responsibility.
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The Pilamaya Podcast is a series from the Pilamaya Centre (UK) featuring conversations about integration psychotherapy, consciousness, and personal transformation. Hosted by Shaura Hall, it explores merging ancient wisdom with modern therapy, focusing on themes like relational healing and emotional growth.
What if the place where we are most fully ourselves is also the most ordinary?
In this episode, Susan and Shaura explore The Ordinary Place — a state of being where we are neither above nor below anyone else, where the need to perform, explain or prove ourselves begins to fall away.
Through charming stories of family, animals, creativity, the natural world (including one very particular crab apple) the hosts explore all the ways in which we might begin to find or recognise our own Ordinary Place:
1. Be yourself
The Ordinary Place asks nothing more extraordinary of us than to be who we are.
It can be found in moments of truth, stillness and ease — those times when we stop feeling the need to explain or perform and can simply inhabit ourselves.
2. Notice the noise
Family conditioning, social expectations and the constant noise of modern life can pull us away from ourselves, and thus, the Ordinary Place, leaving us caught between feeling not enough and trying to become something more.
What remains when some of that noise falls away?
3. Follow what brings you home
Your Ordinary Place may already be present in the things that quietly bring you joy — creativity, nature, relationships, work, ritual or the places where you simply feel most naturally ourselves.
What if the Ordinary Place isn’t somewhere we need to reach for or travel to at all.
What of it’s simply somewhere we learn to recognise.
Enjoy this episode and let us know: Where is your Ordinary Place?
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Find out more about Pilamaya:
The Pilamaya Centre: https://thepcip.org/
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shaura@thepcip.org
susan@thepcip.org
Production credit
Sound Engineer: Tom Fox at Moorcroft Studios
Original artwork credit
The original artwork for the Pilamaya Podcast is by multi media artist & healer Hilary Calverley.
Inner & Outer Landscapes
(Charcoal, acrylic paint & water soluble oil pastels on watercolour paper.)
Instagram: hilary_calverley_
Multi media artist & Healer hilarycalverley@gmail.com

